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A summary of the group’s purpose and how it will work.

Board purpose

1. The purpose of the Programme Board is to work collectively to consider evidence and develop proposals for implementing the Programme for Government commitment to ‘Eliminate private profit from the care of looked after children’.

Background and context to the programme

2. The First Minister and the Deputy Minister for Social Services are clear that the ‘Eliminate private profit from the care of looked after children’ Programme for Government commitment is a top priority for delivery during this Senedd term. The commitment itself builds on the long held view of ministers that private profit be removed from the care of looked after children and aligns with calls made by the Children’s Commissioner for Wales and Voices from Care. Further, children themselves have expressed upset at being looked after by profit making organisations, that they feel ‘bought and sold’.

3. The Deputy Minister for Social Services has set out her thinking recently on this commitment at a Senedd Plenary debate. The Deputy Minister has also made this statement:

“Eliminating profit making from the care of looked after children is one of the highest priorities for this Government. We believe that public care should mean that children are cared for by local authorities or other not for profit providers where social values and the best interests of and outcomes for children are the overriding motives."

Scope of the programme

1. The First Minister has indicated his preference for the initial scope of the work to focus on private profit in relation to children’s care homes. The initial focus of this work will be on the private provision of residential care for children, before then exploring independent sector foster care.

2. The provision of public/not-for-profit foster, kinship and special guardianship placements are inextricably linked to the delivery of this commitment. The wider Programme for Government commitments place an emphasis on increasing the focus on keeping families together. Where children cannot remain with birth parents, we want to increase the use of kinship and special guardianship arrangements where it is possible and in the best interests of the child to do so. 

3. Over time, the programme will broaden to encompass the removal of profit from supported accommodation for care leavers and care at home for disabled children.

Role of the Chair

4. The board will be chaired by the Chief Social Care Officer for Wales, Albert Heaney who will be supported by a Programme Team (see below).

5. The Chair will be supported by a Deputy Chair who is Alistair Davey, Deputy Director, Enabling People Division, Social Services and Integration Directorate.

6. The Chair will highlight and direct areas of work to deliver the purpose.

7. The Chair will provide a challenge function and act as a critical friend to all board members to enable them to make appropriate recommendations.

8. The Chair is accountable for the delivery of the programme, and holds responsibility for decisions put to ministers. The Chair is accountable to the Deputy Minister for Social Services and the First Minister for progress and delivery.

Programme Board

9. The Programme Board comprises members and attendees as required. Members will be involved in all decisions required. Attendees will not be directly involved in decisions, but provide the board with advice and guidance when necessary.

10. The Programme Board will meet monthly initially. This will be reviewed after the first 2 meetings to consider the frequency of meetings going forward.

11.There will be occasions where certain agenda items will be discussed only with board members, for example, decisions about resourcing. Where this is the case, it will be clearly identified on the agenda of the Programme Board and on the papers for those items.

12. The Programme Board will ensure that full account is taken of all interdependencies, opportunities and challenges presented to deliver a coherent programme.

Role of Programme Board members

13. Board members are expected to work collectively to provide advice and guidance to the Chair (and Programme Team). Board members will be expected to communicate with relevant colleagues in their organisations and, within Welsh Government, their DG areas and ensure that, where required, their staff commit sufficient time to contribute effectively to the programme recognising that this may involve discussion on priorities.

14. Members of the board will be expected to provide advice which enable decisions to be taken. Board members cannot work in isolation from each other; building constructive relationships across the whole membership of the board is necessary to delivering the programme.

15. Given the nature and content of the discussions the board will have, members of the board will be expected to treat all board and work stream discussions as confidential.

Programme Board attendees

16. The Chair and board members can suggest attendees to participate for specific items. Attendees will have an information, advice and guidance role and can provide a challenge function. They will not have a decision-making role. Attendees may be representing external organisations that will have a role in the delivery of the programme.

17. Board members and attendees will provide visible leadership and commitment by attending all Programme Board meetings and creating an environment in which the programme will thrive.


18. Observers can request or be invited to Board meetings but prior approval must be sought from the Chair.


19. If a board member or attendee is unable to attend a meeting, a substitute should be considered and the Programme Team notified beforehand.

Programme Board secretariat (Programme Management team)

20. The Programme Team is comprised of members of the Improving Outcomes for Children team, Social Services and Integration Directorate.

21. The Programme Team will ensure that information is provided to board members in a timely manner to enable them to provide advice.

22. There may be times when it will need to be convened exceptionally to deal with specific decisions or issues. In certain circumstances, board members and if appropriate attendees will receive papers for their consideration ‘out of committee’.

23. Highlight reports will be produced to provide board members and attendees with details of progress of the programme.

24. Secretariat services will be provided by the Programme Team. Papers for the board will be provided to all members and attendees at least three working days before meeting.

Programme Board tasks

25. The Programme Board is responsible for a range of tasks including:

  • Programme administration
  • Policy development
  • Policy considerations
  • Programme delivery

Programme administration

26. Agree these terms of reference or propose additional or replacement terms that achieve the purpose

27. Review these terms of reference every 3 months

28. At each Programme Board meeting, consider, advise on, agree and regularly review the Programme Board’s Risk Register, Actions, Issues and Decision Log, Communication Plan and Integrated Impact Assessment

29. Assess and consider the programme’s potential to succeed within the wider policy context

30. Regularly review the arrangements for leading, managing and monitoring the programme and ensuring that links are made to other projects and programmes (internal and external to the Welsh Government);

31. Continually check that the provision for financial and other resources is being actively managed for the programme and that, as far as possible, activity plans are realistic, properly resourced with sufficient people of appropriate experience, and authorised;

32. Consider use of funding which is proposed to be made available to bring in subject matter experts as required;

33. To communicate key messages about the programme within the Welsh Government and externally

34. Confirm the successful delivery of the programme and “sign-off” at the particular stages of the programme including programme closure

35. When papers are circulated out of committee all members are expected to consider the papers and respond.

Policy development

36.Develop a communications plan which sets the context for the programme and includes:

  • the best interests, outcomes for and rights and entitlements of children and young people
  • the messages from children themselves about receiving care and support in a for-profit environment, and
  • the avoidance of disruption to children.

37.Consider evidence and data which describes the operation of the private sector children’s care homes provision including, for example, statistical analyses and documentation and the placement location of Welsh children in care. This will include board members and attendees sharing expertise and experience relating to the provision of private sector children’s care homes.

38.Consider and make recommendations for additional and/or bespoke data and evidence analyses/papers.

Policy considerations

39. Consider issues and topics for achieving the purpose. These include:

  • The significant investment needed to build the capacity of the public/not for profit children’s care homes sector.
  • The use of Foster Wales, our public/not for profit fostering scheme and potential Third sector fostering arrangements.
  • The provision of specialist, therapeutic care including health, education and other wraparound support.
  • Any requirement for legislative action, for example, the greater use of section 16 [Footnote 1] of the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 and re-focussing the Part 2 Code of Practice (General Functions) in relation to children’s services commissioning strategies and the use of social enterprises, co-operatives, user-led services and the Third sector.
  • Any requirement for legislative changes relating to the registration of children’s care homes, both currently registered and new registrations.
  • For any legislation to be sufficiently flexible to cover the full range of care, support and accommodation provision (see paragraph 5)
  • Links to the delivery of the Programme for Government commitments including but not limited to:
    • Explore radical reform of current services for looked after children and care leavers
    • Legislate to deliver better integrated care and health, paying attention to the responses to our White Paper on Rebalancing Care and Support, and
    • Launch a national social care framework

40. Consider any barriers to achieving the purpose. These include:

  • The for-profit business models of private sector providers.
  • The sufficient provision of public/not-for-profit foster, kinship and special guardianship placements.
  • Destabilising children’s placements and risks to children achieving good outcomes.

Programme delivery

41. Delivery arrangements for the programme will entail a phased approach and will be co-produced with board members. Programme Board members will be required to:

  • Lead work streams. Work stream topics will be discussed and agreed at the first Programme Board meeting. 2 proposed work streams are:
    • Work stream 1: Building public/not-for-profit provision including building sufficiency and managing the transition to new models of provision – Chair Brigitte Gater and Harvey Gallagher
    • Work stream 2: Defining ‘profit’ and informing the development of legislative proposals including in relation to competition law – Chair Karen Benjamin
  • Develop a stakeholder communications plan including content, methods and frequency.
  • Develop a timetabled implementation plan which draws on the policy development and policy considerations items.
  • Lead and implement the agreed changes which deliver the programme’s purpose.
  • Propose arrangements for post-implementation review and evaluation.

Programme Board membership


Albert Heaney, Chief Social Care Officer for Wales

Deputy Chair/SRO

Alistair Davey, Deputy Director, Enabling Peoples, Social Services and Integration Directorate



Jonathan Griffiths

Fon Roberts


Sally Jenkins

Jan Coles

Annabel Lloyd


Naomi Alleyne

Stewart Blythe

Care Inspectorate Wales    

Vicky Poole

Children’s Commissioning Consortium Cymru (the 4Cs)  

Karen Benjamin

Wales NHS National Clinical Commissioning Unit    

Shane Mills

CAMHS Adviser to Welsh Government and the Chief Medical Officer    

Dave Williams

Welsh Third sector fostering agencies/National Fostering Framework/Foster Wales/SME Representation    

Sarah Thomas – AFA Cymru

Sam Frith-Jones – AFA Cymru

Brigitte Gater – Action for Children

Sue Richardson – Cariad Fostering

Kevin Williams – The Fostering Network

Independent Care Homes Association    

Peter Sandiford

Nationwide Association of Fostering Providers   

Harvey Gallagher

Independent Care Home Providers    

Darryl Williams - Woodlands Ltd

Paul Thomas - Landsker

Dan Svensson – Keys Group

Children’s Commissioner for Wales    

Sally Holland

Rachel Thomas

Voices from Care    

Deborah Jones

TGP Cymru    

Jackie Murphy


Mark Turner

GMB Union  

Kelly Andrews

Welsh Government officials    

Natalie Avery, Head, Improving Outcomes for Children team

Sarah Austin, Improving Outcomes for Children team

Tracy Dunning, Improving Outcomes for Children team

Henry Vaile, Improving Outcomes for Children team

Matt Jenkins, Deputy Director, Futures and Integration Division

Amira Evans, Head, Rebalancing Care & Support National Policy

Shelley Davies, Head, Partnership & Integration

Huw Gwyn Jones, Senior Policy Manager, Rebalancing Care & Support

Tracey Breheny, Deputy Director, Mental Health, Substance Misuse and Vulnerable Groups

Matt Downton, Head, Mental Health and Vulnerable Groups

Jo Maddaford, Head, CAMHS and Mental Health Legislation

Jonathan Price, Chief Economist (financial modelling)

Mike Lubienski, Social care lawyer

Claire Germain, Local Government Policy

Judith Cole, Local Government Finance



1. Extract - A local authority must promote:

  1. the development in its area of social enterprises to provide care and support and preventative services
  2. the development in its area of co-operative organisations or arrangements to provide care and support and preventative services
  3. the involvement of persons for whom care and support or preventative services are to be provided in the design and operation of that provision
  4. the availability in its area of care and support and preventative services from third sector organisations.